The clen I am not so sure about. Started off on a dose of 40mcg every day. Felt very little. Slowly and gradually moved to 160mcg on a daily basis and even now truly feel absolutely nothing but have held at it for around 2 weeks at that dose. Heya https://mylesmomjg.birderswiki.com/1148713/is_ugloz_legit_reddit_can_be_fun_for_anyone